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Old 08-18-2014, 07:16 PM   #21
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If I can pin this guy down I will see if someone in the area can scope it out prior to any wire, etc. It strikes me as odd, I use to be in sales if someone text me,
"I'd like to make an offer call me back please." I would have called that day. Not days later.
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Old 08-18-2014, 08:00 PM   #22
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If I can pin this guy down I will see if someone in the area can scope it out prior to any wire, etc. It strikes me as odd, I use to be in sales if someone text me,
"I'd like to make an offer call me back please." I would have called that day. Not days later.
I can sympathize. It pisses me off to no end if I have to beg to give someone my business.

That said, when you sell a rig, there's no shortage of tire kickers, and brokers looking to help (take your money), but it's usually not hard to separate the real potential buyers from the 'interested' parties.


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Old 08-18-2014, 08:05 PM   #23
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From my post count you will see I don't post a lot but I sure have lurked for a long time... so with that said why can't you put a fan on a SMB Pop-Top? Cutting a whole in the SMB top, or Voyager top or stock roof seems the same to me? Is there a headliner or like that causes the fan install issue with a SMB top?
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Old 08-18-2014, 09:25 PM   #24
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why can't you put a fan on a SMB Pop-Top? Cutting a whole in the SMB top, or Voyager top or stock roof seems the same to me? Is there a headliner or like that causes the fan install issue with a SMB top?
I could be wrong but thought it depends if the roof is a smooth or ribbed top. Not that a fan can't be put on a ribbed top or that it hasn't been done but I don't think SMB would warranty it. Perhaps things have changed? A phone call might be in order. At one time SMB north used smooth PH tops...maybe they still do. The new cutaway model has a smooth top.
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Old 08-19-2014, 12:29 AM   #25
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When I was shopping I found a lot of late 90's SMB's with those "classic" painted on stripes (indeed, I bought one of them although as a penthouse model it was only one straight, horizontal stripe), but I had no idea they were still doing them in 2003. For me the way the couch is hemmed in by the closets would be a bummer, but for a person who wants four captain's chairs it looks slick. I would really have liked that high top.

I hope you get it and that it's not some sort of scam. (I have to admit that ads with "L@@k" or a bunch of asterisks, etc. in the title always make me wonder though. Makes it seem more like a professional flipper or something.)

Edited to add: Googling the phone number shows someone who apparently sells a lot of vehicles, yet it is posted in CL under "for sale by owner" -- an owner who apparently does not find it necessary to mention it is a Sportsmobile...
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When I was shopping I found a lot of late 90's SMB's with those "classic" painted on stripes (indeed, I bought one of them although as a penthouse model it was only one straight, horizontal stripe), but I had no idea they were still doing them in 2003. For me the way the couch is hemmed in by the closets would be a bummer, but for a person who wants four captain's chairs it looks slick. I would really have liked that high top.

I hope you get it and that it's not some sort of scam. (I have to admit that ads with "L@@k" or a bunch of asterisks, etc. in the title always make me wonder though. Makes it seem more like a professional flipper or something.)

Edited to add: Googling the phone number shows someone who apparently sells a lot of vehicles, yet it is posted in CL under "for sale by owner" -- an owner who apparently does not find it necessary to mention it is a Sportsmobile...
Yep. All photos apparently taken in only one location, no in-use photos, no personal descriptions like "we camped in this van here and there", etc. No descriptions of how it runs, how it handles, how it was maintained. Looks like a nice van though.
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Old 08-19-2014, 05:31 AM   #27
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I talked to the seller several days ago. He is a Wholesale Dealer and this was a trade in - he knew very little about it. Was to check on a couple of things and call me back in an hour or so, but never did.
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Old 08-19-2014, 09:35 AM   #28
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We went with a penthouse purely for height. Even with a pop top we're having to watch everything we do to make sure we still will fit inside a shipping container. If we didn't have that restriction we would have probably gotten a high top. We once owned a Pleasure-way van and it was nice to always have the standing room. Setting up camp was park... done. On the rare occasion we had to put a lynx leveler under a wheel or two.

The height the penthouse provides when deployed is great. Way more than the Pleasure-way and with it being all tenting it creates the illusion of space. For us, it makes it feel more like camping. There's just something about tenting.

With all of that being said, a good floor plan can function in a pop-top with it up or down. That's a requirement of our build so we'll be able to stealth camp as needed. If we were going to build a rig purely for stealth camping then we'd go with no top and stock everything else. Maybe even put a fake plumber logo or something similar on the side. All the crap we tend to bolt, strap and adhere to these vans is what lets everyone else know we're living in it... we're not fooling a soul. Just having a little bit of lift creates an enormous amount of interest.

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Old 08-19-2014, 10:31 AM   #29
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If we were going to build a rig purely for stealth camping then we'd go with no top and stock everything else. Maybe even put a fake plumber logo or something similar on the side.

I saw a sprinter that was vinyl wrapped in a cabinet making business advertisement. He had the side door open (at the beach) and inside was a full interior. Of course he had cabinets in there, but that was pretty stealth to see the full interior in that rig.
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We went with a penthouse purely for height. Even with a pop top we're having to watch everything we do to make sure we still will fit inside a shipping container.
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We're going to need the story on the shipping container....
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