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05-04-2015, 10:32 PM
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Location: Orange, CA
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Re: Adding 1
I currently tow an 8500# trailer and installed Roadmaster Active Suspension to help with the tongue weight. Mine is very heavy even with my weight distribution hitch. They really only come into play when under heavy load. I installed these on the new van because I felt this is what was happening to my previous SMB with airbags. As Ramsey from Agile Off Road explains in detail viewtopic.php?f=13&t=14704&hilit=air+bags .
So the airbags are not an option for me. The Roadmaster works well when the trailer is hitched up but does not give any extra height to the rear when not hitched. I'm leaning toward adding leafs to current spring pack. I'm just looking for someone that has added some with an opinion on the ride changes.
Steve
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05-05-2015, 09:26 AM
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#32
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 270
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Re: Adding 1
I had the same issue with the long back pluss all my added accessories lowering the back and creating too much rebound. Took it to Deaver who added a few leafs. I have a 2WD with the Camburg Pk
Quite happy now, it did cost a bit but you are welcome to look at it and perhaps DIY
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05-05-2015, 01:20 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Cologne GER
Posts: 77
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Re: Adding 1
Same issue that everyone needs to deal with here. I guess most work with blocks + having a lower tail.
Adding leafs does not only add height but mostly will change the the suspension curve to a harder ride. The setup will work from a harder start upwards to a setup for more weight.
Its ok if you want a harder ride anyway. But if you don´t the set will get worse.
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05-05-2015, 06:46 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Bishop, CA
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Re: Adding 1
I had an extra 2nd leaf added in addition to my RIP add a leaf after about 6 months. The RIP add a leaf is now the 3rd leaf. It is a bit stiffer a ride but I still get good articulation. Full military wrap in front and half wrap on the rear eye.
Atlas Spring in the City of Industry, CA did the work.
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06-02-2015, 07:33 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 14
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Re: Adding 1
So, I finally got my spring and shocks installed and am very happy with the results. It was a dog fight - all of the fasteners were rusted in place. I used the Moog CC880S progressive springs and 4 of the Bilstein #25-177480 shocks. I haven't experienced any crashing onto the bump stops. The van just behaves and drives much, much better all around. A pleasure to drive, and the wife doesn't mind driving it now.
I also replaced by track bar and the 4 links - torque bars? I think the track bar replacement made the single biggest difference. No more "vague" feeling when going straight - no more constant steering corrections.
Now I have to tackle the "down by the stern" issue. I think I only need about 1" of lift in the rear. I'm thinking of getting as set of 2" blocks and cutting them down. I'm very close to the top of the garage with my roof rack. I think I can go up 1" - but I'll have to measure. Of course, I'll have to add shock extenders to my brand new shocks once I put the block in - I could've thought that out better.
Cheers! B
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06-02-2015, 07:57 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Rancho Nuevo (Cabo/Todos Santos) B.C.S. and San Diego, CA
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Re: Adding 1
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Originally Posted by Belltownbikes
Now I have to tackle the "down by the stern" issue. I think I only need about 1" of lift in the rear. I'm thinking of getting as set of 2" blocks and cutting them down. I'm very close to the top of the garage with my roof rack. I think I can go up 1" - but I'll have to measure. Of course, I'll have to add shock extenders to my brand new shocks once I put the block in - I could've thought that out better.
Cheers! B
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You already have ~3.5" blocks in there now and you should never stack them.
Also you cannot simply cut a block in half as the have centering pins and sockets cast into them.
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06-04-2015, 05:54 AM
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#37
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Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
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Re: Adding 1
Of course you are right Mr. Agile - I had to peek under there to make sure. So, I don't think 5" of blocks under the spring is the way to go to solve the issue. What do you do at the rear to level things up once you install your RIP? B
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06-07-2015, 10:56 AM
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#38
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Rancho Nuevo (Cabo/Todos Santos) B.C.S. and San Diego, CA
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Re: Adding 1
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Originally Posted by Belltownbikes
Of course you are right Mr. Agile - I had to peek under there to make sure. So, I don't think 5" of blocks under the spring is the way to go to solve the issue. What do you do at the rear to level things up once you install your RIP? B
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We offer a full length Add-a-leaf that will lift the rear an inch or more depending on the van. Either that or a complete new set of springs.
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06-07-2015, 08:54 PM
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#39
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: TN
Posts: 10,275
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Re: Adding 1
Ramsey's idea is better, but I was able to find the proper lift blocks from 4wheel parts. As I recall, it took a lot of sifting through the millions of lift blocks they stock. Anyway, hindsight being 20/20 I'd get the add a leaf. I also had airbags already and have used them to level a bit when heavily loaded.
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06-09-2015, 09:05 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
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Re: Adding 1
Would lift blocks be ok instead of the add-a-leaf if I have a cargo van and don't intend to add a bunch of weight in the back? My E350 rides pretty nicely now but I would like to increase the FRONT end travel, and with that, match the rear height to the front. Thanks!
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