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Old 11-05-2021, 04:43 AM   #11
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We have a similar layout to the one site in your first post with a pop top. Ours is a sportsmobile top, but same idea. We love the air the top let's in. On hot days, it cools the van pretty quickly once the sun sets.

The downstairs is pretty quiet and worked great to keep our toddler sleeping in louder campgrounds. Now that he is 9, mom likes the quiet downstairs and he and I share the bunk. When he decides he doesn't like sharing the bunk, we'll carry one of our backpacking tents.

We have a stock, Ford van seat in a crew layout. Finding something smaller is on my list.
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Old 11-05-2021, 08:53 AM   #12
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We did get the insulation. We've camped down into the 30s comfortably. But when it was down to 6 degrees at Steamboat last winter I made sure we were at a KOA where I could plug in a space heater to the camp shore power. To avoid that in the future, we do in fact have an appointment in December to have CCV install a heater for us. The Maxxfan they installed sucks but it's not because of CCV; something is wrong with the fan, maybe a rain sensor? CCV says they will address in Dec.
Good to know, thanks! I'm contemplating a cheapo diesel heater on this build. That's a luxury we haven't had in any of the previous vans, but from what I hear those things are vastly oversized for anything van-sized, so it would probably keep things toasty even if the top weren't insulated. But in the interest of saving energy I suppose insulation makes sense.


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We have a similar layout to the one site in your first post with a pop top. Ours is a sportsmobile top, but same idea. We love the air the top let's in. On hot days, it cools the van pretty quickly once the sun sets.

The downstairs is pretty quiet and worked great to keep our toddler sleeping in louder campgrounds. Now that he is 9, mom likes the quiet downstairs and he and I share the bunk. When he decides he doesn't like sharing the bunk, we'll carry one of our backpacking tents.

We have a stock, Ford van seat in a crew layout. Finding something smaller is on my list.
I'm also hoping to find a smaller seat that works with the OEM mounting locations, but alas that is proving to be difficult. I'm going to keep the stock 3 person bench in there for now, but we may resort to drilling new holes in the floor. I did that in our old Econoline (before we had a kid), being sure to overlap with the cross braces that the OEM seat mounts use, but I feel much more risk averse when we're strapping in our toddler!
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Old 11-05-2021, 02:19 PM   #13
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Good to know, thanks! I'm contemplating a cheapo diesel heater on this build. That's a luxury we haven't had in any of the previous vans, but from what I hear those things are vastly oversized for anything van-sized, so it would probably keep things toasty even if the top weren't insulated. But in the interest of saving energy I suppose insulation makes sense.

If you don't have insulation you may find the people in the lower bed get too warm while the people in the upper bunk are chilled; while heat rises, the radiation loss to the cold canvas is a lot more significant. I also find our uninsulated pop-top picks up a *lot* of heat from the sun, which is not so nice in the summer if you like to sleep in -- you end up with a choice between being in a heat trap, or having the shades open for ventilation and the light shining in on you. I don't know if insulation would help much with the solar gain but I suspect it would.


I have a Suburban propane furnace in my van. It's been adequate down to the low 30s. My van is not winterized in terms of plumbing so I don't camp in places where I expect prolonged nighttime lows below freezing, so I can't comment beyond that.
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I'm contemplating this seat, but haven't done the research yet. Https://www.suburbanseats.com/p/ambv...categoryid=120
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