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10-21-2023, 11:00 AM
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Join Date: May 2011
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Tilt-Out Side Window Adhesion Failure
Several months ago I walked out to the van to see the tilt-out glass, intact, but on the ground. I leave the two tilt-out windows open year-round to make sure I get airflow through the van so when the adhesion on the passenger tilt-out glass finally gave out, the glass slid off its track and fell to the ground.
I've tried three times to rebond the glass to its seat on the window assembly but nothing has worked. I've used two different types of black silicone and one gasket maker - none of which have held. The shape of the glass does not exactly match the seat that it sits in so it wants to pull away - this of course is not helping during the curing process. I've had to come up with some creative ways to keep the pressure on the glass and even after letting it cure for weeks, it still won't hold.
For now, Gorilla tape is doing the job but want to get this resolved correctly.
Does anyone know what the correct adhesive is for this application?
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10-21-2023, 01:01 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Contact CR Laurence - Automotive Glass Dept.
Your window is a model FW904RS
Ask for the Epoxy / Adhesive for that model window. I believe they can spec what to use.
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10-22-2023, 07:26 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: GTA, Ontario
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Go by the local glass shop and buy a tube of the black goop they use for modern window installations. Warning- you'll need a strong caulking gun as the stuff is thick.
I call the guy ahead of time and he leaves the day's leftover tube, meant for the trash, out back and I swing by and grab it. It's great for rear view mirror installation.
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10-22-2023, 08:05 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Reynoldsburg, Ohio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pntyrmvr
Go by the local glass shop and buy a tube of the black goop they use for modern window installations. Warning- you'll need a strong caulking gun as the stuff is thick.
I call the guy ahead of time and he leaves the day's leftover tube, meant for the trash, out back and I swing by and grab it. It's great for rear view mirror installation.
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Being in the auto/truck glass biz this ^^ is a great idea; nothing ventured, nothing gained. I can't think of a time I've not a used tube with enough left to do this sort of job. Speak kindly and for little to nothing they might do it for you---I would!
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10-27-2023, 12:23 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: San Diego
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I have 3 of these windows in my 2004, they have all failed. I did a full replacement on one since the glass shattered. It is not a hard job to DIY. I now have them all glued shut around the full perimeter and have sacrificed the nice ventilation they provide. I probably should replace all of them ($1900?) but there are always other more pressing van problems to deal with. I never got in the habit but I often thought if you rubber lubed the gasket to prevent sticking it might last longer since the glass tended to stick. Good Luck with repair.
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10-30-2023, 05:35 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Reynoldsburg, Ohio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PatO
I have 3 of these windows in my 2004, they have all failed. I did a full replacement on one since the glass shattered. It is not a hard job to DIY. I now have them all glued shut around the full perimeter and have sacrificed the nice ventilation they provide. I probably should replace all of them ($1900?) but there are always other more pressing van problems to deal with. I never got in the habit but I often thought if you rubber lubed the gasket to prevent sticking it might last longer since the glass tended to stick. Good Luck with repair.
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Naturally where the adhesive is muy importante if an operating lower element is important.
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10-30-2023, 10:25 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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I had a Pleasure-Way Traverse van with those types of windows. I was selling it and a prospective buyer came to look at it. She started opening the window and the glass fell off. She didn’t buy the van [emoji23] Thankfully the glass didn’t break and I was able to reattach it and sell the van.
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