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Old 06-14-2010, 05:41 AM   #71
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Re: Sheneeda, The van

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Having The Wife's support and interest VS mere tolerance is a big deal sometimes.
Well put.

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Old 06-14-2010, 12:12 PM   #72
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Re: Sheneeda, The van

You got the wrong name somehow on that quote^
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Old 06-15-2010, 06:52 PM   #73
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After traveling for a couple of hours straight, the 7.3 noise coming through the doghouse got to be annoying. I spent some time researching on this forum and others to see what I might be able to do about it. Once again I turned to the boating world for a solution (hopefully). I bought a sheet of "lead core" or sound barrier foam. it looks like 2 layers of dense 3/8" foam rubber with a layer of "lead" or some dense lead-like material sandwiched in the middle. One side has a heat reflective layer, although not as sturdy as the type on the stock insulation. My plan is to try to install the lead core against the plastic of the doghouse, then replace the stock insulation with its obviously rugged heat barrier. I realize that it may not all fit, but thats the plan for now.



I have used this stuff before in generator rooms, and have seen it in boat engine rooms, and outboard motor compartments.

I was surprised when I took the doghouse stock insulation off, I found that the previous owner stuck some dynamat between it and the doghouse plastic housing. I guess It confirmed what I had already concluded about dynamat as a solution.



It was obviously not a thorough job, but still It left me thinking I needed more sound deadening.

I'm not sure when I will get time to fit this stuff (or if t will ft at all), but I will keep you all posted.
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Old 06-16-2010, 03:11 AM   #74
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Re: Sheneeda, The van

Ya, that previously installed Dynamatesque material would have been doing very little to control sound transmission in the higher frequencies.

Do you know how thick your mass layer is? And is it actually lead or MLV(mass loaded vinyl) or...?
Brand?
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Old 06-16-2010, 03:36 AM   #75
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Pretty sure its mlv. overall thickness is 1". Not sure of brand- will check.
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Old 06-18-2010, 07:03 PM   #76
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Doghouse is still on the floor uninsulated after a busy work week.

Today after work I opened up a couple of boxes of van windows!



These were ordered from my local glass company and are manufactured by CR Laurence co. The top one is for the passenger side above the rear wheel and is a fair amount taller despite what the picture shows. The bottom one is for the driver side just behind the door. (above the "kitchen")

The large one is a t slider, the small one is a half slider. Maybe tomorrow I will once again tuna can the van. I am more excited about windows right now than I am about the doghouse insulation.
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Old 06-19-2010, 11:35 AM   #77
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First I used the window to create a cardboard template. It seems like the windows should come with templates, but they did not.

1. Put the template on the inside of the van and line it up with the structural metal "cutouts". I taped the template in place then drilled three randomly located holes through the template and out through the wall of the van.

2. Put the template on the outside of the van using the 3 random holes as "registration marks"



3. Trace the template with a marker.

4. Remove template, cover outline with masking tape, put template back on and trace again this time onto the masking tape. The tape will help keep the paint from chipping around the cut.





5. Take a deep breath. Take a leak. Are you sure you want to do this? Using a jig saw with a fine tooth (24) metal blade at full rpms slowly cut out the van window opening.

6. I had a friend hold the steel cutout while I sawed the last inch at the top, so the cutout wouldn't fall onto the new vinyl floor inside the van.



7. Test fit the interior trim ring. It slides in between the exterior van wall and the interior structural van wall. The trim ring is split at the bottom to facilitate this process. One of my bottom corners needs trimming to allow the ring to fit completely. Right now the ring ends overlap eachother by a 1/4" to 3/8".



8. Lunch break.
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Old 06-19-2010, 02:54 PM   #78
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After trimming the corners again (mostly the interior layer of metal was interfering with the trim ring) I slid the trim ring into position and then dry fit the window into the trim ring. It was snug but I think good. I pulled the bottom out first and used clear silicone sealant to create a bead for bedding the window into the van wall. Then I went inside the van and put 2 screws in the bottom to pull the window into the trim ring. Then back out to silicone the sides and top edge. Then I went inside again and put all of the screws into the window frame through the trim ring pulling the whole unit tight to the van wall. There was considerable silicone cleanup! I used more than I needed to, but I would rather clean it off the van, then have a leak later on.

This would be a better job for 2 people. I did this part alone, but could have used the help- one person outside and one inside would make more sense.



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Old 06-19-2010, 04:41 PM   #79
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nice job buddy

was thinking
hmmm.... Sheneeda

however, she now has a Pompidor, last side shot...

Maybe change to Elvis?
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Old 06-19-2010, 07:31 PM   #80
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A fine job and a most excellent write up.
This is one job I wanted to try myself but couldn't get the window since CR Laurence will only sell to shops.
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Talk about "The moment of truth". From your description this sounds like it might have been the hardest part of the install.
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