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Old 12-18-2008, 09:35 AM   #81
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For those of you on limited budgets, you can also reach Jim at:
(800) 709-2516 or jcgreatestoil@msn.com
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Old 12-18-2008, 07:02 PM   #82
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Amsoil System Fix Instructions!

Hello, Everyone. This is Jim, Sportsmobiles Amsoil Rep. We have now completed 4 oil analysis reports on SMB's that have more than 25,000 miles on them without changing pan oil. All reports have indicated no engine wear problems. Reports are normal. The important thing is NOT to switch the hoses back where they belong without putting on fresh filters. If the hoses are switched with used filters, there is a possibility that dirt not trapped properly could go back into the engine. Also, there is a spring and restrictor inside the unit that should be removed. It is located near the full-flow filter in the chamber closest to the drivers side of the van. After you remove both filters you will be able to see the chambers. Remove the allenhead cap and pull out the spring and restrictor. Put teflon tape on the allenhead cap prior to reinstalling it since you have disturbed the o-ring on the cap. Your system will operate more efficiently without this restrictor. The new system does not have it. Next, look at the hoses. The passenger side hose at the engine block should be attached to the drivers side of the Amsoil system. The hose on the drivers side of the engine block should be attached to the passenger side of the Amsoil system. Both hoses are 7/16. You will need 2 wrenches to avoid disturbing the nipple that it is attached to. If you disturb the nipple it may leak. Mark the hoses before you begin. Then remove both hoses and put teflon tape on the threads to prevent galding and leaking. Also put oil or grease on the rounded portion of the nipple before reinstalling the hoses. Tighten to about 20 lbs. We are now recommending that all oil and filters be changed every 15,000 miles or 1 year unless an oil analysis program is used past 15,000 miles. Whatever you decide, both filters must be changed at 1 year intervals or 15,000 miles. If you have additional questions you can call me at 714-390-7873. Thanks, Jim
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Old 12-18-2008, 07:50 PM   #83
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Jim,

I am glad you found your way to our little corner of the web. I think you have a typo in your post. The wrenches needed for the fittings are either a 15/16 or 7/8, I can't remember which.

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Old 12-18-2008, 08:12 PM   #84
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Jim,

I also appreciate you coming onboard here and providing an explanation. Before I do anything however, I want to get Sportsmobile's formal position on this issue.

20lbs? I've got a torque wrench, but I sure don't have an open end torque wrench. As much as I rarely need an excuse to buy a cool new toy, I mean tool, I don't think I can justify to myself a tool that I'll use only once or twice. Guess I'll have to self-calibrate my wrench turning wrist.


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Old 12-18-2008, 08:44 PM   #85
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John, you are right. The wrenches needed are 7/8, two of them and the 20 lbs. is a reasonable estimate. It is just snug. Jim
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Old 12-18-2008, 08:49 PM   #86
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I got an email from Sportsmobile today that I believe is their formal response to this problem. It is a word doc with pictures. How do I post a word doc?
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Old 12-18-2008, 08:51 PM   #87
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I got an email from SMB today telling 6.0 PSD owners about swapping the oil lines and it does not mention removing the restrictor that Jim writes about on here. Getting conflicting information does not sit well with me. Guess I'll email SMB and see what they say.

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Old 12-18-2008, 08:53 PM   #88
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Amsoil oil Systems

Jim ,
I am scheduled to have this very service done tomorrow December 19th 2008 at Bob's Brake in Lawndale California , I am also having Hubert change my Transmission Fluid back to the Amsoil Blend as I recently installed the Mag Hytec Pan . I have two questions for you .
#1 Who is responsible for the two recently changed Amsoil Filter's less than 300 miles ago ?
#2 Is the detailed information that you so graciously provided available on Amsoils's letterhead ? I would surely think that the Amsoil Corporation would make this available for changes to their systems and their end user's piece of mind . I had this installed based on the original claims of greatly extended service intervals and the
overall performance of your products not to mention the savings that were to be realised from cutting my service's by one third . Hopefully you are able provide additional clear answers to these Questions . Thank you Jim
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Old 12-18-2008, 09:30 PM   #89
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Thanks Jim for the explanation. I called SMB yesterday and they did say to take off the restrictor and that they would reimburse me for the filters. However, I just got the email and it did not say anything about the restrictor or reimbursment. I am going to Bob's Brake shop on Monday and hopefully everything will be clear by then.
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Old 12-19-2008, 08:45 PM   #90
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My lines were swapped by SMB and they did an oil sample a week or so ago. I have not pulled the ball valve as Jim suggested to me and will wait until SMB gives that a go. I talked with the lab by phone and they said all metals were below average so the AMSOIL filters were working better than stock OE does. This suggests that the bypass filter was working to some extent. I had about 4K miles on the oil @ 42K total miles. The trouble they found (which has nothing to do with the filter system) was fuel in the oil that indicates a problem with the injectors. Now it's time to battle Ford to see if they will fix the injector problem. From now on I will send in a sample every 5K.




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