MG Metal Works DIY kit knowledge share

[mk216v]

Originally Posted by winnievan

2013+ axles have 14.3" brake rotors -- 2005-2012 axles have 13.66" brake rotors -- roughly a 10% increase in braking surface area.

And only MG's kit can incorporate these newer axles (essentially you get free big brakes! ). UJOR is up to '05 only.

[Lilnuts2]

To be fair UJOR does offer a bigger brake kit. It is an additional cost above and beyond the axle.

[mk216v]

Originally Posted by Lilnuts2

To be fair UJOR does offer a bigger brake kit. It is an additional cost above and beyond the axle.

Yes, the RSC brake upgrade at $2700 extra above the axle price. Why I mentioned that with MG's kit and the '13+ axles, you essentially get "free" 14.3" brakes. Also, IIRC it's the '16+ axles which have even larger knuckles and other goodies too.

[225]

I wanna say first of all, that Chris (UJOR) and I have a good relationship. I am local to his shop. And I have nothing but good to say about him, and his crew. They're good folks.

I'm just exploring all my options. I'm going to see what I can afford (been laid off for 5 months, but finally going back to work), and what will work best for the 2021 platform.

[winnievan]

Originally Posted by mk216v

Yes, the RSC brake upgrade at $2700 extra above the axle price. Why I mentioned that with MG's kit and the '13+ axles, you essentially get "free" 14.3" brakes. Also, IIRC it's the '16+ axles which have even larger knuckles and other goodies too.

I do not think the 16+ have larger knuckles. I have a 2016 axle and I was fiddling with the idea of replacing the passenger side knuckle since it had minor damage to the hub seal surface. The part number is: DC3Z-3130-A and it is listed as compatible for 2013-2016. Maybe it is bigger and just backwards compatible?

https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts...3z3130a?c=az0x

On the recommendation of a tech, I ended up making it work with a bit of filing and some RTV on the hub seal. Guess it is real common on the Dana 60.

What other goodies come with 16+?

[Chinook]

Originally Posted by mk216v

And only MG's kit can incorporate these newer axles (essentially you get free big brakes! ). UJOR is up to '05 only.

That couldnt be further from the truth... Timberline also requires the use of the later model Dana 60 axles.

[winnievan]

And a couple outfitters in Canada use coil spring axles too...

Bernhausen or something out of Surrey and I think Clydesdale out of Kamloops.

Maybe one of those two does an IFS. I can’t remember.

[mgmetalworks]

Originally Posted by winnievan

I do not think the 16+ have larger knuckles. I have a 2016 axle and I was fiddling with the idea of replacing the passenger side knuckle since it had minor damage to the hub seal surface. The part number is: DC3Z-3130-A and it is listed as compatible for 2013-2016. Maybe it is bigger and just backwards compatible?

https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts...3z3130a?c=az0x

On the recommendation of a tech, I ended up making it work with a bit of filing and some RTV on the hub seal. Guess it is real common on the Dana 60.

What other goodies come with 16+?

The front axle ujoint at the knuckle is bigger on ‘16s than previous years.

[amamdani]

need some help on rear wheel adapter please.

i want to order the rear steel adapters recommended by MG but don't know how thick?

I have 2013 E350 5.4 4R75 rb passenger semi-float axle code 34
Front axle is from 2014 F350

Plan to order 18x9 18mm offset wheels.

thank you!

Originally Posted by mgmetalworks

I don't recommend Aluminum for adapters. These are the adapters we've used in the past...

https://www.wheeladapter.com/product.php?id=31

[mgmetalworks]

Originally Posted by amamdani

need some help on rear wheel adapter please.

i want to order the rear steel adapters recommended by MG but don't know how thick?

I have 2013 E350 5.4 4R75 rb passenger semi-float axle code 34
Front axle is from 2014 F350

Plan to order 18x9 18mm offset wheels.

thank you!

1.75" thick have been the ones I've used a few times