Fresh and gray water tank questions.

[posplayr]

Originally Posted by kbeefy

Thanks for sharing those sources... those tanks are cheaper than I was expecting.

Other accessories work well just like the Real KUS but better.

270-degree sweep multi-color LED

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The gauge above has good smoothing so I'm not sure of the quantization but it worked well enough for even a 6" sensor.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/22558...yAdapt=glo2usa

These are just the right size for the 18.5-gallon holding tank. Use to hold a galvanized sheet metal protective cover.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000C7TZFM...roduct_details


Cleanliness is next to Godliness, especially for black water tanks.

https://www.campingworld.com/tornado...E&gclsrc=aw.ds


EDIT:
I just saw these. They are even cheaper but i have never bought them before.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/32568...Cquery_from%3A

[doublevan2]

Posplayer -- where did you find -- 10 gal Manchester ASME propane with remote fill behind the axle -- and pricing ? Thanks -

[posplayr]

Originally Posted by doublevan2

Posplayer -- where did you find -- 10 gal Manchester ASME propane with remote fill behind the axle -- and pricing ? Thanks -

This is the remote fill.

I have seen at least 3 Utube videos of people installing the fill ports below the body fully exposed.

I plan to cut a hole right in front of the driver's rear tire (wheel well)
I found a cheap alum door to cover it and that will bend to the body curvature.
I got the remote fill for $260 so they have gone up a bit.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075NN4Y7Y...roduct_details

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The tank is off my 1981 Dodge Brougham.
It is stamped 10.2 gal.
It is pretty much equivalent to this,

https://tweetys.com/manchester-tank-...ngth-x-10.aspx

[dbhosttexas]

Originally Posted by posplayr

After much deliberation, I finally decided to go Full Class C. There will be a full shower/toilet surround in the rear driver's side oriented forward. All vertical dumps into the tanks are in-board of the frame rails. The dump outlets should be very similar to a standard RV configuration (1.5" Grey and 3" black). I'm pretty much starting with a blank canvas with the 2000 E-350 XLT EB with 16" steel reinforced raised top (and wheelchair lift at the side doors).

I'm planning on a Grey water and Black water on a EB behind the rear axle. After procuring an inexpensive petrol parking heater and removal of the rear a/c unit (made possible by Treligo 12V roof top air)
https://www.amazon.com/Conditioner-T.../dp/B0BB9G8VR2

it all just fits into place (I think)

33 gal Fresh Tank laying under passanger side bed.
https://www.classacustoms.com/33-Gal...Tank_p_39.html

18 gal Grey Tank under floor
https://www.classacustoms.com/WT-185...850_p_327.html

9 gal Black Tank underfloor
https://www.tank-mart.com/9-gallon-e...ing-tank-2698/

10 gal Manchester ASME propane with remote fill behind the axle.


The last figure is a side view of the tank hangers for grey/black. The grey is larger and closer to the rear tires improving ground clearance despite it being a full 10" deep. The black is in the rear and 6" deep. It will be possible to raise the 6" Black tank further but I'm not sure if it will change the approach angle.

Okay 2 main issues for my setup compared to your layout.

#1. I am in a standard length Econoline, not an extended length.
#2. The passenger side dinette base is where most of my interior storage is, drivers side is where the electrical and heat are. Can't use either for a water tank. They MUST be under the van.

There is SOME possibility of setting up a gray and fresh between frame rails behind the rear axle, but I am far more concerned about fresh capacity than gray. I CAN and most likely if I can't get a tank to fit my needs just continue to drain into 5 gallon flexible water bladders for gray water.

[posplayr]

Originally Posted by dbhosttexas

Okay 2 main issues for my setup compared to your layout.

#1. I am in a standard length Econoline, not an extended length.
#2. The passenger side dinette base is where most of my interior storage is, drivers side is where the electrical and heat are. Can't use either for a water tank. They MUST be under the van.

If you are talking about utilizing the area where the spare tire is then the RB/EB is not an issue as they must be the same to accommodate the standard 225/245 R16 tires. So the example I showed grey/Black tanks were both under the floor in the spare area.

My setup is 16.5"+1"+11" = 28" lengthwise.

I think for National parks "self-contained" means at least as much greywater storage as fresh water. It is a good rule of thumb at least.



The only grey water tank (from ClassA Customs) that works is the same. There are other suppliers but they are generally mush more expensive

WT-1850 (16.5"x11"x34")
https://www.classacustoms.com/WT-185...850_p_327.html

For fresh, you can pick the 20-gallon T-2000-SP.
https://www.classacustoms.com/20-Gal...Tank_p_34.html


This is very close to (18.5:20)~1:1. You could augment either with above-floor storage but that may be more complicated and only really work for the fresh tank. Using a transfer method you could be more flexible.

[dbhosttexas]

Originally Posted by posplayr

If you are talking about utilizing the area where the spare tire is then the RB/EB is not an issue as they must be the same to accommodate the standard 225/245 R16 tires. So the example I showed grey/Black tanks were both under the floor in the spare area.
WT-1850 (16.5"x11"x34")
https://www.classacustoms.com/WT-185...850_p_327.html

For fresh, you can pick the 20-gallon T-2000-SP.
https://www.classacustoms.com/20-Gal...Tank_p_34.html

I am looking at taking out the spare tire carrier assembly entirely, That gives me from the back of the existing spare tire carrier, I didn't bother measuring to the bumper as I figured I would need room for the hitch, but I have 35" between frame rails side x side, and 28" + 2" clearance to the exhaust. Some custom routing of the exhaust could probably buy me another 4".

To summarize my project, I have 3 @ Reliance AquaTainers that are 7 gallons each, and 3 @ Reliance 5 gallon flexible water carriers I use for gray. Black water is in the casette toilet and no need for a separate tank and holds 4.8 gallons. Honestly the toilet is my biggest capacity limiter but that is a sparate issue maybe for a future camper.

I am thinking about at least 20 gallons fresh capacity and as close to that as I can get in gray capacity. The space I was considering for gray water is between frame rail and foot step box for the sliding door.

I am not to the point of thinking about plumbing propane yet, mostly because I don't have anywhere for a bottle. I am using isubutane canisters in my Whsperlite Universal so far and happy with the results except one butane canister that leaked when I removed the stove from it...

[Orv]

Originally Posted by dbhosttexas

I am thinking about at least 20 gallons fresh capacity and as close to that as I can get in gray capacity. The space I was considering for gray water is between frame rail and foot step box for the sliding door.

That's where the tank on my van is. I don't know what the capacity is, though. I have a 9 gallon freshwater tank and have never overflowed the gray tank (except one time when I inadvertently didn't empty it fully.)

It's a convenient spot for plumbing if your sink is on the passenger side, since it can go more or less straight down and in.

[arctictraveller]

Originally Posted by posplayr

This is the remote fill.]

Do you have a link to the remote fill? Thanks….

[posplayr]

Originally Posted by arctictraveller

Do you have a link to the remote fill? Thanks….

Originally Posted by posplayr

This is the remote fill.

I have seen at least 3 Utube videos of people installing the fill ports below the body fully exposed.

I plan to cut a hole right in front of the driver's rear tire (wheel well)
I found a cheap alum door to cover it and that will bend to the body curvature.
I got the remote fill for $260 so they have gone up a bit.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075NN4Y7Y...roduct_details

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Sorry it is the second (last link above)

[Scalf77]

NashFuel has two different styles of mounting kits:

6FT PROPANE REMOTE FILL KIT WITH MOUNTING BRACKET RV MOTORHOME AUTOGAS LPG

6FT PROPANE REMOTE FILL KIT WITH MOUNTING RECEPTACLE RV MOTORHOME AUTOGAS LPG

I believe you can get the kit's from 6ft to 14ft in two foot increments.