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09-04-2020, 07:11 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: San Francisco/Nevada City
Posts: 3,769
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Originally Posted by joefromsf
I was wondering who (corporate or SMB West) was the champion for the new SMB Classic line and if it will be impacted.
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That was all SMB West.
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09-04-2020, 07:32 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Southern New Mexico
Posts: 10,181
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I'm not seeing a major consequence or impact, just a fork in the road for SMB West.
Herb
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SMB-less as of 02/04/2012. Our savings account is richer, but our adventures are poorer.
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09-04-2020, 08:19 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 633
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I'm wondering if this is a move to give SMB West the freedom to evolve different designs beyond what the Sportsmobile contracts allow. Over the last 8 years or so , and since #Vanlife, there are so many other builders now with newly desirable designs and features to compete with. This will probably work out to be a good thing in the end.
It wouldn't surprise me if moving the whole operation to Reno,NV isn't in the plans as well.
- Eric
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2005 SMB RB 4x4 6.0 PSD
A rocket on the pad is safe,
but it's not what rockets are built for.
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09-04-2020, 08:20 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Parker, CO
Posts: 478
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Does this mean no more low top vans with Pop Tops coming out of SMB West though starting July 2021? Pop Tops and floor plan names are probably the only Sportsmobile IP at this point. Maybe some of the cabinet designs too I guess.
I am thinking that the majority of their new builds were high top Sprinters/Transits and everybody and their brother with a couple of power tools are building those these days so there can't be too much SMB IP inside those vans. SMBW designed and created the SMB 4x4 system so they will probably keep that IP, correct?
The SMB Classic uses a Pop Top so I wonder what happens with that design/IP?
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Old Van(sold): 1995 Dodge B3500 SMB RB33
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09-04-2020, 10:19 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: San Luis Obispo, CA
Posts: 2,554
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Maybe they will get some new molds and mechanisms that will allow for wider beds and taller pop tops like CCV...
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2012 CTS-V Wagon - For the baby...
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09-04-2020, 10:58 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Turlock Ca
Posts: 10,410
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShuttlePilot
I'm wondering if this is a move to give SMB West the freedom to evolve different designs beyond what the Sportsmobile contracts allow. Over the last 8 years or so , and since #Vanlife, there are so many other builders now with newly desirable designs and features to compete with. This will probably work out to be a good thing in the end.
It wouldn't surprise me if moving the whole operation to Reno,NV isn't in the plans as well.
- Eric
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That was a plan years back... at least dealing with Cal regulation. There was some talk about them feeling that Reno is more locally accessible to mid sections of the US and PNW. A lot of vehicles are picked up in Reno to get around California's BS tax rules and registration for those purchasing from out of state. I'm sure the recent events can play a role how they view a move though. Both the Classic and Fuso were SMBW's projects. My guess is the CA shop will stay open, possibly as a corporate head quarters and repair center. I do hope they stay in Fresno for repairs.
I'd like to see a new concept vehicle; something more 4x4 capable than a Sprinter/promaster but sized similar to an E-series yet not so large that it be difficult to travel more aggressive trails. I hope they don't warp into a typical motorhome type design but that seems to be the money maker. The new Jeep pickup is screaming for some kind of off road camper. I'd even considering down sizing for a well thought out design.
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09-04-2020, 12:05 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Washington state
Posts: 29
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Not sure what plans were in play , My thoughts are if they could have come to an agreement to continue with the name Alan would have . its Iconic! The benefits of having R&D free of constraints will be a good but the current global situation makes getting even the simplest parts of a build complicated.
The Fresno division is much more specialized and the largest of the other divisions, their global builds to fulfill their foreign orders could keep them busy alone once the non complete is over with .
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09-04-2020, 01:50 PM
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#18
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Fresno, CA / Dayton, OH
Posts: 202
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So if you want a new build by SMB West, camp out on their doorstep overnight on June 30 2021 to be their first order on July 1
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09-04-2020, 02:13 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Posts: 1,202
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jpau00
So if you want a new build by SMB West, camp out on their doorstep overnight on June 30 2021 to be their first order on July 1
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Sounds like a non-compete clause.
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09-04-2020, 02:19 PM
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Extreme SW coastline
Posts: 36
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Same folks, same problems?
A rose by any other name? I've been waiting for 2 weeks for an answer to a pretty simple question I emailed concerning my penthouse. But maybe they were just too busy doing high level corporate business. So i"ll do what I knew I should have to begin with. Ask the Forum Gurus. I am certain that the combined knowledge of Forum members is far greater than that of the company (corporate or West) that built these lovable beasts.
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